From the Radio Free Michigan archives ftp://141.209.3.26/pub/patriot If you have any other files you'd like to contribute, e-mail them to bj496@Cleveland.Freenet.Edu. ------------------------------------------------ Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 2 Num. 08 ====================================== ("Quid coniuratio est?") ----------------------------------------------------------------- MEDICAL DOCTOR PUTS HIS LIFE ON THE LINE TO PROVE THE HIV VIRUS DOES NOT CAUSE AIDS v v v v v v v v v v v v v v v v v v v v v v v v v v v v v v v v (Disclaimer: "...traditional sexually transmitted diseases [e.g. syphilis], and the massive antibiotic-dosing that goes with repeated incidents of these diseases, is very immunosuppressive. So one doesn't have to swear allegiance to current AIDS research to favor safer sex.") ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ >From a full page ad in *The Spotlight*, September 12, 1994: If you or someone you know has tested positive for the HIV virus, there is now good news. The chances you will get sick or die from AIDS are no greater than if the test came out negative. The *London Times* reports a major research group has recently proven the test for the HIV virus (which is claimed to cause AIDS) is completely invalid and "riddled with false positives". Malnutrition, multiple infections, malaria, multiple sclerosis, tuberculosis, having once had the "flu" or measles and even the body's own natural response to anal semen all result in positive HIV/AIDS tests. {1}. Now the truth is finally revealed. When a completely normal and healthy person tests positive for HIV, is then put on the deadly drug AZT {2} -- they die. Death results from the destruction of the immune system caused by the deadly drug AZT and not by HIV. I interviewed Dr. Robert E. Willner, a medical doctor who has practiced and lectured on medicine worldwide for over 35 years. He recently stunned Spain by innoculating himself with the blood of Pedro Tocino, an HIV positive hemophiliac. {3}. Dr. Willner is the author of the just published blockbuster book *Deadly Deception: The Proof That Sex And HIV Absolutely Do Not Cause AIDS*. Caption from an accompanying photograph: ........................................................ Author of *Deadly Deception: The Proof That Sex And HIV Absolutely Do Not Cause AIDS*, Dr. Robert E. Willner stuns Spain by innoculating himself with the blood of Pedro Tocino, an HIV positive hemophiliac. This demonstration to prove the HIV virus does not cause AIDS and is in fact harmless was reported on the front page of every major newspaper in Spain. His appearance on Spain's most popular television show evoked a 4 to 1 response by the viewing audience in favor of his position against the "AIDS Hypothesis", yet this historic event was never mentioned in the U.S. press... Why? ........................................................ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Q: Dr. Willner, you say in your book AIDS is the greatest fraud in medical history. {4}. That the perpetrators of this crime are raking in billions while innocent people are being murdered with the deadly drug AZT. Is AIDS a scam? A: No, people are indeed dying of Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome or AIDS. The scam is that AIDS is not caused by HIV and AIDS is not transmitted sexually or by any other means. The real causes of AIDS have been known for centuries and have been listed in medical textbooks for over 60 years. We have all been lied to and sold a bill of goods by a handful of unscrupulous, immoral scientists that care more for money and power than they do for the truth or human life itself. Most of the medically supervised AIDS deaths were either caused or contributed to by the deadly drug AZT. In many cases it was given to perfectly normal and healthy individuals who were terrorized by fear from the AIDS media blitz [CN -- or "blitzkrieg" perhaps?] into taking the phony HIV test. When a percentage got positive test results they were then given lethal doses of AZT, a drug that was shelved over 20 years ago because it was found to be too toxic to give to terminally ill cancer patients. Q: We have been told all along that all AIDS patients had the HIV virus and that is what causes AIDS. A: That is an absolute lie! The HIV/AIDS hypothesis was based on the fact that only 40% of AIDS cases were confirmed by the Centers for Disease Control to have *antibodies* to HIV and *not the virus itself*. In New York and San Francisco only 7% of AIDS victims were HIV positive. This means that 60 to 93% of all AIDS patients that were used to create the AIDS hypothesis were HIV *negative*. The entire AIDS hypothesis is based upon a total lie. We were all lied to when we were led to believe that 100% of AIDS victims were HIV positive. Q: But how could this happen? A: To answer that question we must examine just exactly who created this great lie. It was none other than Dr. Robert Gallo, who was investigated and found guilty of "scientific misconduct". The very same Dr. Robert Gallo who just a few years prior to AIDS discovered what he called the HTLV virus. He claimed that HTLV caused human leukemia but failed to gain scientific acceptance because he could not prove it. Gallo likewise claimed that HTLV was sexually transmitted and had a latent period of 40 years. That theory was rejected and failed to gain Dr. Gallo acceptance into the National Academy of Sciences. His theories on AIDS are just as fallacious and one cannot help but see the similarities in the scenario. However, this time instead of trying to prove his insane theories about AIDS to his peers, without scientific proof, he by-passed them and went public. Then, with the help of Margaret Heckler, former head of Health and Human Services, who was under great political pressure to come up with an answer to AIDS, the infamous world press announcement of the discovery of the so-called AIDS virus came about. This great fraud is now responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of individuals world-wide. It was no accident that Gallo just happened to patent the test for HIV the day after the announcement to the world was made. It likewise is no accident that Gallo is now a multimillionaire because of the AIDS fraud and his fraudulent AIDS test. Q: Are you saying that Dr. Gallo created AIDS? A: In a manner of speaking, yes he did. By taking a number of diseases that were killing a select group of individuals and claiming that they all had one thing in common -- the innocent retrovirus he now called HIV which he also claimed was sexually transmitted. The truth is that these individuals were indeed dying of a variety of diseases and they all did have one thing in common, but it had nothing to do with their sexual preference or with Gallo's harmless so-called "mysterious" HIV retrovirus. They were all dying from specific causes that I go into great detail explaining in my book. {5}. The information is completely documented and based on cold, hard scientific facts -- not on the phony unproven guesswork or the fraud-laced hypothesis that is the very foundation of Gallo's ridiculous AIDS theory. Q: But Dr. Gallo showed us pictures of the HIV virus attacking T- cells. A: The photographs Gallo purported to be HIV "invading" a cell, were actually photos of phagocytosis, which is exactly the opposite (the process by which the cell engulfs the virus). Whenever the virus is found it is never doing anything and is never harming the cell in any way. Gallo also reported that AIDS originated in Haiti, in spite of the fact that HIV antibodies were discovered in frozen blood samples in the United States more than 50 years ago. Where was the "epidemic" then? Q: How do you answer proponents of the HIV/AIDS connection when they argue that "everyone knows that HIV causes AIDS"? A: Once "everyone knew" the earth was flat and the sun revolved around it. It has been more than 12 years since the so-called "discovery" of AIDS. Yet, there is still not one single reference paper that exists in the world that proves HIV causes AIDS. In other words, no experimental proof whatsoever has been offered to establish that this harmless retrovirus, which cannot even be found in 50 percent of the individuals with AIDS, has anything to do with it. Q: Isn't is true that any disease capable of destroying the human body is always found in vast numbers in the infected person? A: Yes, of course. Yet, even the highly sensitive polymerase chain reaction (PCR) invented by Dr. Kary Mullis, Nobel Prize Laureate, which literally makes it impossible for viruses to hide, can't find Gallo's HIV virus in sufficient quantities to give someone the flu let alone kill them. HIV is rarely found in T-cells (1 virus per 10,000 to 1,000,000 cells) and when it is found it is doing absolutely nothing. In cases of full blown AIDS, even in those just hours from death, the virus is extremely difficult to find; and in 50 percent of the cases it cannot be found at all. Whenever it is found, even in active cases of AIDS, HIV is inactive, not reproducing and it is certainly not killing T-cells as Gallo claims. Q: Then what exactly is HIV? A: HIV is simply a piece of dead tissue not unlike numerous other retroviruses that exist in our body at any given time. It is one thousandth the size of a regular cell, is harmless and is simply incapable of doing anything that Gallo claims of it. Retroviruses can't even reproduce themselves. They need a host cell to reproduce them. If the retrovirus kills the host cell, as Gallo claims HIV does, then the virus has immediately committed suicide -- any possible epidemic is over before it began. T-lymphocytes (our white blood defensive cells) {6} reproduce 500 times faster than the HIV virus is supposedly reproduced. This simply means that even if the HIV/AIDS hypothesis were correct it is impossible for HIV to ever win the battle. It's like saying you are going to conquer China by giving a noncontagious flu to 3 soldiers a day while their army increases by 1,500 troops daily. Retroviruses such as HIV have been thought to cause many diseases in the past, but extensive, honest research has proven them basically harmless. Q: Does Dr. Mullis share your contention about HIV and AIDS? A: Yes he does. Dr. Mullis says: "*Scientists don't believe, they have evidence... There is no such body of knowledge*" (with reference to HIV as the cause of AIDS). Dr. Peter Duesberg, Professor of Molecular Biology, University of California, Berkeley, and member of the National Academy of Sciences, puts it even more distinctly. He writes, "*HIV does not cause AIDS... The point that everyone is missing is that all of those original papers Gallo wrote on HIV have been fraudulent... The HIV hypothesis was based on those papers*." Q: Are there others who also support your position? A: Nearly 500 of the world's top scientists are now challenging Gallo's hypothesis that HIV causes AIDS and the list is growing daily. Every statistic, every valid scientific observation and even the test of time now proves Gallo wrong. It was only a matter of time until thinking scientists raised their heads out of the sand, saw the truth and started questioning the lies that simply did not stand up to the scrutiny of impartial scientific reasoning and experimentation. [CN -- The following is emphasized in the original.] Project AIDS International [PAI] charges that "the dogmatic AIDS hypothesis based on the findings of a person convicted of science fraud, is directly or indirectly responsible for the premature deaths of hundreds of thousands of people worldwide." PAI further goes on to say: "If action is not taken immediately against those who are directly or indirectly responsible for these crimes against humanity through the practice of profit over life, the drug induced AIDS deaths will most certainly reach proportions unparalleled by any natural catastrophe in human history." Q: What about Dr. Gallo's contention that HIV is a slow "mysterious" and "intelligent" virus. A: Dr. Duesberg, renowned as one of, if not the world's foremost retrovirologist, answers that question by saying that [CN -- emphasis in original]: "Slow" or "lente" viruses do not exist! It is another hypothetical invention designed to explain what is obviously nonsense. It has no basis in fact, no precedent in science, and is contradictory to 20 years of research findings. {7}. Retroviruses can only be replicated by the host cell, and are dependent on the life-cycle of that cell. Therefore, the virus must replicate within hours or days in order to survive. For over 20 years, an exhaustive investigation of retroviruses reveals that there is no such thing as a "slow" virus. There is nothing biochemically or genetically different about HIV that would give it the power to act any differently than any other retrovirus. As Dr. Duesberg so aptly puts it, "*There are no slow viruses, only slow virologists*." Q: Did you always know HIV was not the true cause of AIDS? A: No. I have to admit that in the beginning I too believed Gallo's big lie. But the more I learned about retroviruses the more the AIDS hypothesis didn't make sense. Q: But how could so many honest scientists be so easily fooled? A: Again Dr. Duesberg answers that question best by writing: "*After a frustrating 20-year long search for a human cancer virus, the club (the retrovirologists) was craving for some clinical relevance for the retrovirus and hence, happily adopted HIV -- the AIDS virus -- as the cause of AIDS*." He went on to explain the impact of the powerful promotion that made the AIDS hypothesis "*instant national dogma*". The billions of dollars in funding, the economic interests of the bio-technology and pharmaceutical companies and the tremendous notoriety from the press was too much for these retrovirologists to resist. Q: Surely there were a few independent scientists who tried to expose this fraud? A: There were, and as an example of how their dissension was squelched I'll quote Dr. Joseph Sonnabend, founder of the AIDS Medical Foundation. His is typical of how opposition to the AIDS hypothesis was dealt with. Dr. Sonnabend writes "...*I tried to show that HTLV-1 (HIV) was not involved in AIDS. All the journals refused to publish it*." After 21 years of intensive research, not one clinically-relevant retrovirus has ever been discovered, and by scientific standards HIV is no exception. You also have to understand that when Margaret Heckler, head of Health and Human Services [HHS], adopted HIV as the cause of AIDS, basically all institutions which rely on federal government funding or grants had to go along and cooperate or face extinction. HHS is the paymaster for all health departments and agencies. This includes the National Institutes of Health. Q: The proponents of the HIV/AIDS hypothesis, led by Dr. Gallo, dismiss all opposition as not being worthy of their time to openly debate. I understand from your book they even had the supreme audacity to boycott a meeting in the White House when an open discussion of the facts and opposing views were to be presented. Is this true? A: Yes, that is how they operate. These scoundrels defend their position by name calling and avoiding debate because they cannot support their position scientifically. Their followers are either ignorant of the truth or are going along with the lie because that's where the money is. Let me put it to you this way. If you knew or [were] unknowingly duped into playing a part in what has turned out to be the greatest genocide since Adolph Hitler, would you find it easy to embrace the truth and openly admit it? Q: What about Kimberly Bergalis {8}, and Magic Johnson? A: Kimberly Bergalis would still be alive today if she were not given AZT. Magic Johnson is probably as healthy today as he ever was and will continue to live a long and happy life so long as he does not take AZT or any other deadly drug. Q: Why did you innoculate yourself with the blood of an HIV positive hemophiliac? A: Because I cannot stand by and watch the profession I love be deceitfully used to commit murder by following the Gallo HIV/AIDS' death banner. I have vowed that if it is necessary I will repeat the process of sticking myself with the blood of an HIV positive person on television in every city in the world until this genocide stops. I am a physician and I will keep the oath I took. Q: Dr. Willner, in *Deadly Deception* you say AZT is one of the chief causes of AIDS. Can you elaborate further for our readers? A: Yes, and again I will begin by quoting Dr. Peter Duesberg [CN -- emphasis in original]: "AZT is a random killer of infected and non-infected cells. AZT cannot discriminate among them. It kills T- cells; B-cells; red cells, it kills all cells. AZT is a chain terminator of DNA synthesis of all cells -- no exceptions. It wipes out everything. In the long run it can only lead to death and the cemetary. AZT is a certain killer! Who will be responsible for the death of patients (some 200,000 now being treated with AZT and countless thousands who have already died from it in the past decade) that results from AZT therapy -- pharmacological homicide?" The makers of AZT claim "*it increases the quality of life*." Yet, all one needs do is read the package insert that comes with AZT and you will learn the truth: The side effects of AZT as listed on its own package inserts are: *Cancer* (lymphomas), *Hepatitis*, *Dementia*, *Mania* (madness, frenzy), *Seizures* (epileptic), *Anxiety*, *Anemia*, *Leukopenia* (standard laboratory evidence of immune suppression), *Impotence*, *Severe Nausea*, *Chest Pain*, *Insomnia*, *Ataxia* (loss of balance), *Depression*, *Muscle Atrophy* (wasting), and this is only half of the death sentence list of side effects that AZT causes. Does this sound like AZT adds to the quality of life to you or does it sound like what it really is -- *AIDS*! Q: Are there other causes of AIDS? A: Yes, there are and I explain each and every known cause of AIDS in great detail in my book. And, may I add, not one of them is sexually transmitted or HIV related. Q: What can a person suffering from Acquired Immune Deficiency or AIDS do? A: There are actually many things a person with AIDS can do if there is enough time and in most cases there is. The first and most important thing is to get off of any type of immune suppressive drug whether it be recreational, prescription or over the counter, immediately. Secondly, don't be conned into taking AZT or any other last minute, last chance, miracle drug. If you are, it will most certainly prove to be your last chance at life. Thirdly, stop believing the lie that you are going to die. Finally, get and read a copy of my book *Deadly Deception* as soon as possible. It contains the information you need to strengthen your immune system. Follow what it tells you and you will probably be O.K. -------------------------<< Notes >>----------------------------- {1} Much of this has long since been reported by Jon Rappoport in his 1988 book, *AIDS Inc.*. I recently took some heat, by the way, for daring to post my synopsis of Rappoport's book. One person told me "It's o.k. to discuss political conspiracies. But one mustn't discuss medical conspiracies." I'll spare you the "reasoning" behind this. {2} "...the deadly drug AZT." See, for example, *Poison By Prescription: The AZT Story* by John Lauritsen (New York: Asklepios, 1990). So the scam is, they tell you that you have got the dread HIV, then they poison you to death with AZT, then they bury you ASAP. {3} "...[innoculated] himself with the blood of... an HIV positive hemophiliac." Dr. Peter Duesberg, another "AIDS heretic", has also offered to innoculate himself with HIV in order to underline his disbelief in current AIDS dogma. {4} "...the greatest fraud in medical history." Similar to Rappoport in 1988, "Scandal of the Century". {5} "...that I go into great detail explaining in my book." Note to persons, most notably *canus lupus mortuus*, who betray themselves by their over-eagerness to throw mud on such "heresies" as contained in this post: How about reading Dr. Willner's book *IN ITS ENTIRETY* before you start taking your cheap shots? *Then* you can say things like "Where's the documentation?" (Duh, try looking in the book.) and "What about such-and-such?" (Duh, try reading the book. This is just a condensed summation.). This "heresy" is not going to disappear by your throwing mud at it. In addition, one must wonder at the over-eagerness of supposed "debunkers" to quickly throw mud. If you want this "heresy" regarding HIV and AIDS to go away, you are going to have to come down from Mount Olympus and explain to us mere mortals exactly why it just ain't so. Incantations, magic dust and magic bones do not impress *me*, anyway. Logic does. If you can refute what several AIDS "heretics" have been saying -- THEN DO SO AND IN PLAIN ENGLISH. If these are, in fact, "heresies", then you ought to be able to sit down and carefully write a logical and understandable explanation as to why. The fact that, at this late date, very little in the way of a calm, careful, and reasoned rebuttal (not just pot shots taken at minor points) has been offered is, *in itself*, cause for alarm. If these "heresies" are easily refuted, then one must wonder why this hasn't been done but that, rather, cheap, bullying tactics have been used. {6} "T-lymphocytes (our white blood defensive cells)..." Note here, for example, how difficult terms are immediately explained. Would that some of the dogmatists of AIDS could do likewise. {7} "...is contradictory to 20 years of research findings." The interviewer adds, "(and I might add billions of dollars in funding)". {8} Kimberly Bergalis. As I recall, she was the woman in Florida who claimed she had contracted AIDS via her dentist -- not through sex but through just being a normal dental patient. + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Final note: This book is not yet available in bookstores. Because there may be those who want to get a hold of the book, because I cannot just tell them "Go to the library" or "Order it through a local bookstore", I am providing information on how to get the book. Note that I make no profit by doing so. If you can get this book in some other way than as follows, then fine. This information is provided to increase knowledge, understanding, and awareness. *Deadly Deception* by Dr. Robert E. Willner By phone: Call 1-800-214-3645, and ask for operator 101D By mail: $23.95 + $3.95 shipping and handling ($27.90 total) Peltec Publishing Co., Inc. Dept. 101D 4400 N. 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